"GhostZ" (GhostZ)
06/18/2015 at 04:06 • Filed to: None
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"GhostZ" (GhostZ)
06/18/2015 at 04:06 • Filed to: None | 8
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1. Travis should be leading the discussion. Doug comes off smug and confrontational. Script the discussions better, less argument. You should have structured this conversation as a power vs fun suspension discussion with Aaron in the middle.
Doug DeMuro is not Matthew McConaughey. Sorry.
2. You can see the edges of the set and the green screen behind it, especially early on in the video.
3. Aaron Brown is the best spoken but not nearly as comfortable. He’s slouching, have him sit up better.
4. Do rule of thirds, not dividing the screen in half between the two presenters. See: After/Drive videos.
5. At 7:20 you get some weird camera work again zooming up on Travis’s face. Half of the screen is blank space, that’s not good.
6. Audio mixing needs to be done a little better to get a more balanced sound. It sounds muted and stilted, even quiet. When the conversation gets quiet you should be able to equalize it a bit better.
7. H ave an additional camera angle showing all 3 of them. I know you don’t want to use this because when you do, it shows the edges of the set, but get your camera work figured out so you can do this without exposing the edges.
8. Your camera work is jittery. Especially during zoom. Keep it smooth.
9. Go over the prices when you introduce a car rather than just saying it’s under $30,000.
10. Aaron stares at the camera while others are talking. Focus on the person talking to avoid this, and also remind him not to stare at the camera unless speaking to it.
11. The conversation was concluded at 15 minutes. Why didn’t you just do a separate video for Tavarish’s section? 21 minutes is fairly long for a youtube video, and while the tops are related, the videos themselves are distinct enough that it would serve better to separate them.
12. Tavarish’s segment was good, but Doug’s audio gets a little messed up at around 16:30 at his place. I don’t know what the fuck was going on but it sounds like your boom/shotgun mic failed and you resorted to the lapel mics, but didn’t do any postproduction on the sound to make it match. You got echoes galore.
13. Doug obviously doesn’t work well when someone else, like Tavarish is dominating the conversation. Instead of a conversation, he’s mostly just looking for his chance to argue against him and interject. Work on the chemistry and having him foster discussions and vet questions, rather than flat out disagree. See: Mike Spinelli.
19:35: Camera focus is off.
19:50: The lighting settings on the second camera here are different than the first.
Here’s your model to follow:
Good luck.
TheOnelectronic
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 04:26 |
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I like this; substantiated criticisms that seem to come from a place of experience.
Echo51
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 05:35 |
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I think the set being visible is kinda on purpose, given the amateur-ish general attempt at this it seems to me. Don’t take it all so serious :D
Berang
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 05:47 |
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what is a doug demura
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 06:33 |
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Doug always annoys me. I hate to be a internet hater, and I keep trying to like him, but I’m pretty sure both D’s in Doug’s name actually stand for douchebag.
vondon302
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 06:38 |
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I actually liked the goofy low quality production but they couldn’t use a real basement? I mean come on.
LongbowMkII
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 06:43 |
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20 minutes? ain’t nobody got time for this.
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GhostZ
> Berang
06/18/2015 at 06:52 |
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A fancy communist microcar, duh.
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GhostZ
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
06/18/2015 at 06:53 |
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Douche DoucheDouchebag.
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GhostZ
> vondon302
06/18/2015 at 06:54 |
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I think it bothers me more that it looked like they weren’t aware of how bad it looked.
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GhostZ
> vondon302
06/18/2015 at 06:55 |
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I think it bothers me more that it looked like they didn’t know what they were doing, rather than just looking cheesy.
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GhostZ
> LongbowMkII
06/18/2015 at 06:55 |
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I’ll watch the after/drive videos that are 25-30 minutes each, but they’re more structured and engaging and usually cover more material.
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GhostZ
> Echo51
06/18/2015 at 06:56 |
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I think they were aware of the fact that it wasn’t very professional, but I don’t think they were aware of how bad it looked.
Brian Silvestro
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 07:15 |
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1-13 THAT’S THE JOKE
jariten1781
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 07:19 |
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Should hire an actual presenter to host. This isn’t the first time a magazine has tried to do video with its current staff...always ends up awkward. While some writers are good hosts and vice versa, it’s more of on an exception basis than a rule.
I agree with the production comments.
jkm7680
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 07:37 |
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Five minutes is all I could watch. There’s more debate than actually answering the question at hand, Doug keeps randomly interrupting and mumbling something that sets the other two onto him, the editing is average at best and even the argument looks scripted.
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GhostZ
> Brian Silvestro
06/18/2015 at 07:44 |
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Except they even executed the “so bad it’s good” approach poorly .
On the stretch between Stanley Kubrick and a 5-year-old with a phone camera, Jalopnik is sitting right in Ed Wood territory.
The Ballaban video was much better done in that territory.
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GhostZ
> jariten1781
06/18/2015 at 07:45 |
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They have a
real
ly
cool
edge with the so bad its good thing they can be milking, but they have to make the content worth watching first before stylizing it.
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Brian Silvestro
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 07:45 |
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#2 is really the joke though, and it was really funny
#teamaaronbrown
The Dummy Gummy
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 07:46 |
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I feel bad, but that video was a train wreck. The beginning of the video they were trying way too hard to be funny and forced humor is terrible. Aaron Brown talking about his dad every 5 seconds made it really weird too.
Not sure I’ll waste the time on another youtube video. Production quality just isn’t there. It was like they said “I have a great idea to bring us up to speed with other publications; YOUTUBE”, but then had no idea how to execute and ran with it anyways.
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GhostZ
> Brian Silvestro
06/18/2015 at 07:51 |
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What they needed was spot-on discussion and presentation, presented in a funny, hastily thrown together way. They didn’t go far enough with the horrible set design to the point where it didn’t look intentional, it looked like they just didn’t care, not that they cared to the point of making it funny. Like that they weren’t capable of doing it properly, so they didn’t even try and used “it’s a joke guys” as an excuse. Then they went too far with the awkward conversations and lack of structure and scripting.
This video would have actually worked, as-is, really well as a mean spirited stab at /Drive’s format coming from a fan. But it’s coming from an actual journalist blog that might actually be making a serious attempt at a good youtube channel, and that’s what kills it. That takes it from clever subversion to cool dad syndrome.
That being said, I’m on team Aaron brown too.
I think they have a really cool thing going with this approach, but they need to narrow it down to perfection fast because the consequences of messing it up make them look a lot worse than more conventional approaches. Which is why they are conventional. Again, the Ballaban video is much better and I really enjoyed it.
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GhostZ
> The Dummy Gummy
06/18/2015 at 07:52 |
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Watch the Ballaban video and you’ll get a better idea of what they’re going for, but yeah they have a long way to go to both maintain their kitschy sense of humor without making it into a production disaster.
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vondon302
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 08:22 |
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True but first one so we’ll see.
OPPOsaurus WRX
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 08:25 |
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i think the hatch/sedan sales for the WRX were nearly 50/50 split
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HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 12:15 |
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oh yeah there is three Ds
davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> jariten1781
06/18/2015 at 13:36 |
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They should have hired someone with actual video/audio production skills.
The Compromiser
> Berang
06/18/2015 at 18:45 |
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Better yet, who’sTarvis Okikolski?
Doug DeMuro
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 22:49 |
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Wait a sec. Aren’t you the guy who hates me?
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GhostZ
> Doug DeMuro
06/18/2015 at 23:46 |
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IT’S YOU.
Nah, I don’t hate you. You just need to work on your presentation/discussion to give off less of an “argumentative douche” vibe. You’re not nearly as bad in your own personal videos than it is in this one.
Nibby
> Doug DeMuro
06/18/2015 at 23:52 |
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It’s okay, I love you. Best buddies for life.
sm70- why not Duesenberg?
> Doug DeMuro
06/18/2015 at 23:53 |
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It’s okay, some of us still love you.
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sm70- why not Duesenberg?
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 23:53 |
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Sassy!
Birddog
> GhostZ
06/18/2015 at 23:56 |
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GhostZ is my new Spirit Animal!
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Birddog
> Doug DeMuro
06/18/2015 at 23:58 |
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Nobody hates you, Doug.
It’s not always all about you..
Now sit down and eat your Spapeggy like a good boy.
Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
> Doug DeMuro
06/19/2015 at 00:02 |
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Maybe...
TheHondaBro
> Doug DeMuro
06/19/2015 at 00:08 |
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NeedForSwede
> Doug DeMuro
06/19/2015 at 00:10 |
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Jimmy Eat World references should elicit only love.
CB
> NeedForSwede
06/19/2015 at 00:31 |
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I didn’t like Jimmy Eat World when I first listened to them, but after a while, I started to dig it. I guess it just takes some time...
Luke's Dad Sold His 2000TL To Get a Sienna
> GhostZ
06/19/2015 at 00:45 |
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In other news and videos I can watch a second time instead of finishing this Jalopnik video, Hilary Duff is back from an 8-year hiatus in music and a new music video came out today too.
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Berang
> The Compromiser
06/19/2015 at 02:12 |
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tardis obiwankenobi? who’s that
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Doug DeMuro
> TheHondaBro
06/19/2015 at 07:53 |
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Don’t hate God!
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The Compromiser
> Berang
06/19/2015 at 08:00 |
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Timmay Olsen? Superman’s buddy’s cousin? From Colorado? In a wheelchair?
